Solution to camping and lack of boss mob

[ntrox1]

Chubula, I will help you bump.

FC - pls reduce the 1hr spawn to 15 mins on the rest of the boss mobs!

**BUMP**

[_____________Chubula]

*Bump*

Thanks Ntrox!

[ntrox1]

np Chubula.

BTW FC *have* reduced the spawn to 10 mins across the board. Mnay thanks guys, ya know it makes sense!

[Archelan]

Originally posted by Ntrox
BTW FC *have* reduced the spawn to 10 mins across the board. Mnay thanks guys, ya know it makes sense!

You're saying all special mobs now spawn every 10-15 minutes? Or are you just talking about Trash King and his goons?

[engelstein]

Greasy Joints is 10 minutes. For the other mobs, apparently only those leet enough to join Storm deserve their drops.

[_____________Chubula]

*Bump*

Heh... Forget about Trash King and all those guys... I'm still trying to get all the parts.... Im going to wait for the "new" to wear off of that lil quest... BTW... where the heck is Cosmik or Cz to comment on this thread???

[ntrox1]

Archelan: I was specifically referring to the Dodga bots, ie TK, BB, Electro etc. I don't know of any other quests, and I have attempted no special dungeons except Borg (to get the armour). I don't even have Nelebs, and I am lvl 132!

[_____________Chubula]

Bump.

[_____________Chubula]

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[ntrox1]

Ya do realise that TK is now 18 hour and Dodga despawns since 14.4? NERF!

BUMP!

[______________Nianna]

I like the dungeon key dispenser idea. It could be an npc in another zone that you talk to and he tells you about a job he needs done and gives you a key or something. If a powerful team or guild wants to do a mission dungeon over and over to farm out some power items that's fine with me.

You can always regulate the rarity of items through drop % and monster difficulty rather than monster spawn rate. If you want something to be ultra rare you put it in as a 1-5% drop on a monster in a dungeon that takes a minimum of half an hour to get to the boss and the boss never respawns so you have to go get a new key and spend at least another half hour getting to the boss again. It'd take an average of 50 hours to get one 1% item in that situation. If the monster is tough enough that it requires a whole group to kill it then that'd be an average of way over 300 hours for the average player to get the item once you account for the time needed to get groups together. That's over 10 hours a day for a month. Hardly anyone will put in that kind of time and the item will be ultra rare.

[ntrox1]

Hmm.. Grid Armour MKIII or MKIV anyone?

[_____________Chubula]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Ntrox

Ya do realise that TK is now 18 hour and Dodga despawns since 14.4? NERF!

[ENDQUOTE]

What is TK? ANd I like the % thing on the rare drops Nianna
:-)

[________________Tium]

up she goes

[ntrox1]

TK is Trash King, and he now spawns dynamically between 1 and 9 hours. So now its not predictable. I hear he will be reset to 10 minutes again after next patch. I also hear that Dodga (on 15 minute) is to be made static again. w00t!

[_____________Chubula]

*Bump*

[________________bleh]

Have the dispensers give out 1 key/mission per player and only once every 24 hours.

That way you get your own uncamped dungeon to explore once a day but you cant grab a key run to boss, rinse and repeat for 100s of boss loots every day either.

[_____________Chubula]

*Bump* (Miss me?)

[iguanoid]

Keys for static dungeons sounds like a great idea. Leave them copiable so that if you want to double team a dungeon you can still get 2 teams in.

having the boss mobs always camped is a sad and depressing end to each and every adventure

[Darkbane]

[reposted from a reply to a thread in 'Next Patch' since its more appropriate here]

You'd need to do a quest to get a 'key' which is a one use item that gets you into the dungeon. Ideally, this should be a 'key-ring' with say up to 36 keys, all keys on a given key-ring would access the same instance of the dungeon. You'd just 'split' off a key and give it to another member of your team(s).

Such 'dungeons' could actually be enclosed outdoor playfields with wandering mobs as well as more fixed boss mobs - how cool would that be? They'd also be able to be designed with a particular number of participants in mind (determined by the key-ring size) and there could be level limits (both upper and lower) on actually 'using' the key. Different quests could lead to keys for the same 'static' but for different level ranges and hence with different mobs and loot, or simply with less keys on the key-ring...

Once inside there are no save terms, and if you retreat, you'd be unable to re-enter as you'd have lost the key. Warps in would have to be disabled for this to work though.

You'd get the playfield to yourself (and your team(s) mates of course), get guaranteed access to the boss and guaranteed drops of the loot (which would be nodrop and properly unique).

Static dungeon mobs should be a mix of normal mobs, tougher mini-bosses and the very tough main boss. The main boss should be more than just a HP punch bag though, it should have special and unusual attacks and a modicum of AI in the form of 'behaviours' such as a boss that can do area-root-and-run in order to get to range, or even get away to heal up a bit...

Maybe there could even be NPC's you need to talk to, mini-quests within the dungeon, stuff like that...

This is a bit like the AC2 vault system mind you, but that isn't a bad thing in my books.

This isn't to say dungeons like Camelot aren't also needed, where teams can fight over the boss mob and the loot is semi-random, but many people would like to be able to do the statics 'properly'.

None of this should require any significant additions to the game (the 'key' mechanism and the warp denial being the only ones I can think of) - if FC gave us a booster pack with stuff like this in it, I'd buy it in an instant...