Another failed event.

[______________Windie]

This thing was actually much bigger than you think, and shows how the 'contingencies' work...

Far before Karlina was captured I was approached by the COmmander for the CoT forces, and asked to lead a rescue mission for the editor of the Voice of Freedom. Well I guess the omnis were slow, and thanks to Davesbane and Unitsi it went off without a hitch, we got him away without even seeing an Omni of note.

Funcom, tho, was ready for us... They wanted the omnis to have something to do, so with Tucker safe, they slipped in Karlina and set up the capture/rescue situation. .

I dunno why I"m blabbing about this, I guess I'm impressed by the planning here.

[Valdar]

With some luck FunCom will acknowledge that the scum who do this sort of thing does not belong in Omni-Tek. Hopefully with the implementation of the Clan/Omni-Tek NPC organzations that players can join (Omni-Pol, the Sentinals) they can permanently force players from Omni-Tek if they assualt Omni-tek employees/Opperations outside of a 0% zone or the lawful fighting in the arena.
Until then the events and quests need to go on, hopefully with the support of players willing to IC punish these miscreants and blacklist their names so they are unable to level with other Loyal Omni-Tek employees.

[___________Geofforey]

I think the solution is simple when Omni-Tek employees disrupt Omni-Tek missions like this.

FIRE THEM FROM OMNI-TEK!! We are a corporation, not a nation. If one of our employees commits a blatant sabatoge like this (I was at this event too as Geofforey of FTC, btw), or another blatant offense like when Freen ATTACKED PHILIP ROSS at his recent appearance, we should simply fire them and ban them from ever being an Omni Tek employee again.

If they've murdered lots of clans too, and the clanners won't take them either, let em be neutral! Sorry bub, no more PvP for you ever again. Then we can all laugh at them as they wallow in the grave they dug for themselves.

And if the offense is big enough, they should be sentenced to death. Their code should be wiped from all OT cell scanners, and if they die before saving at a clan one, they'll be out of the equation permanently. I don't think anyone would be in a position to complain about this, especially the moron who would suffer the consequences.


Oh, and Snarf, don't worry.. the Terrorist may have escaped, but we most certainly got the information we needed from the information capsule she was hiding. >;D

[Blyzzard]

I can't wait for an important part of a clan city to become 25% gas area.

It will be great when the clanners start crying about this happening to their events. There are just as many griefers in the clans, but their events don't end up in 25% zones.

[____________Arterous]

Maybe,
But atleast they have an excuse to act like this... They are clanners! I would expect more out of Omni.. But apparently this isnt the case.

[Kirandar]

Clans are not as messed up as you Omni-Tek Employees might think, but then again I expect nothing less from an Omni-Tek Employee, than the spreading of propoganda.

[teejay]

Ok, for once I have to agree with snarf on this.


We cant expect every single event to go our way. We both clan and omni are going to win and lose events. In this event we omni lost because of other omnis. Yes they should be fired or repremanded by Omni-reform or Omni-admin but I dont think that funcom should fix this sort of thing from happening. It adds a whole new level to the events, and if omni's kill events and omni guilds interupt an omni mission then they will have to deal with the fall back. If anything the guards should have opened fire ont he attackers that would have been funny. In either case, we omni's just have to make another attempt at capturing her.

[Laeni]

From a storyline point of view it simply does not make sense for an omni aligned character to be able to flaunt omni-tek policies and get away with it. Clan yes, the clans are anarchist by nature but Omni-Tek is as someone else pointed out, NOT a democracy.

I suspect that in order to trully punish an omni aligned character by "firing" them from Omni-Tek, Funcom will have to reprogram the application process so they can put a lock on the character's ability to switch sides by using an application form. This is what happened when Aberic was "punished". He simply went and got an application form and voila he was Omni again.

But the way it is set up now, there is no reason for Omni aligned characters to follow Omni-Tek policies. Something has got to be done to keep the integrity of the storyline. Omni-Tek has been established as being a powerful corporation. A real corporation of this nature would not tolerate it's employees being insubordinate.

[____________The Grip]

I really wish the name of the griefers would be posted for those who are not "in the know". Some of us need to know whom to avoid. I do not understand this policy of never naming names...are we supposed to be above helping each other avoid griefers?

Also, does the "storyline" only happen on RK1? What is RK2 for? I am not a newbie, but I am only recently back after playing waayyy back when the game first came out. At that time I don't remember there being any difference between 1 and 2 really.

[Nyadach]

Surely anyone who blatently disobeys they orders of OT should be given the boot, or automatically marked as terrorist scum, so effectively becoming a Clanner. I considered saying kick them out and make them neut like last time but hell, we don't want them!

Anyhow, its nice to sit back and watch as all you lot have so much fun while those others just get utterly ignored by everything. Heck, its not like we're asking for the Dusters to drop by but there was a meeting last night, we're talking ALL the command staff of ALL the neut guilds on this planet and we get not one peep outta anyone but for a couple clanners and omni spouting propaganda. Just be thankful you atleast do get a touch of attention.

No leaders chat, no communication with FC, no giving a rollerrats rear now about what they spout!

[_____________Vizzion]

Originally posted by Arterous
Well I was hoping that this wouldn't become a clan omni thing.. Its simply a stupid idiot person behind the PC thing. I tried to enjoy my time RPing last night with this, only 1 hour into it, some ganker killed an hour worth of work. And killed the entire event.

Point being is that a certain guild has had three of these incidents in the past.. How many are they going to Effe up in the future????

EVERTHING in this games is a Clan Omni thing. Thats the whole point of this game.

You were escorting a CLAN person, weren't you?

/OOC Funcom can't determine how people are going to play events like this out. It's up to us, the players. And amnesty is over; there's going to be a war and it will affect everyone

[einexile]

Stuff like this is why players of all levels ought to have easy - I hasten to clarify OPTIONAL - access to a Mayhem area.

It's simply not possible to have Omni-Clan interaction in an interesting, meaningful capacity - hostages, prisoners, negotiations, standoffs, anything other than *mayhem* - if players are totally and ARTIFICIALLY immune to everyone in their own faction.

It is proper that most of life (some would argue all of it) should be made easy and stress-free for people who get hysterical about PvP, but here it approaches hand-holding. It should be recognized and respected that those among us who roleplay the most often level least quickly because of it.

Because of this, mayhem zones should be clearly marked and easy to avoid, but available for *everyone* who wants to participate. Outside of pure luck there is simply no way to hold an event under 25% suppression which includes more than one faction, is open to the public, and has a naturally occurring, non-staged outcome.

[Jhoanna]

/ooc

FC doesnt listen, so just do it yourselves.

/ooc off

Those who claim to be the judge of others, shall be judged at the time of reckoning.
The time is near.

[______________Scorus]

Originally posted by Darksnake
[BThose who claim to be the judge of others, shall be judged at the time of reckoning.
The time is near. [/B]

The time is near since soon they will be standing outside your mission site waiting to loot every single item you just earned from your still warm body...

Scorus

[Naughtigrl]

I agree wholeheartedly. Should one of our fellow Omni's act against the interests of the company, they should be instantly and swiftly dealt with. (OOC - This is supposed to be a roleplaying game is it not?)

Kicking somebody out of the company isn't much of a punishment as it seems that a GM inflicted alignment change allows for immediate comeback. If terminateion from a company cannot be perminate, then you should at least set a suspension period of a reasonable amount of time much like the 24 hour period enforced on voluntarely switching sides.

I've heard that switching sides causes all the side tokens you've earn to disappear, but from my personal experiance with my sister Keddera, this doesn't seem to happen. This get's to my personal suggestion.... If you can't fire them from Omnitek outright, DEMOTE them! Knock down their Merit board a level or 2, depending on the severity of the crime. What? They don't bother getting Merit boards? Well, then boot them out! Anybody who doesn't do their part in helping the company and breaks it's policy's is deadweight and should be expelled forthwith!

Chauncy "RavenWulf" Rhees
59 Agent
Board Member Bateman & Fletcher LLC

[Skymarshal]

I whole-heartedly agree that anyone who goes against thier own side in the middle of a Funcom event should be beaten down... Thrown out suspended or something... I in certian times have wasted upwards of two hours on a single event only to have the OT personell that we were assisting killed right before the completion of the event [im talking last minuite here.] Funcome needs to get a specific plan of action for dealing with people who want to grief others.

[Ellusion]

I can't see why things can be implemented to punish traitors and other neglected grieving brats.

First that springs to mind is just wiping the token board and make them neutral. When that fails, "shackle" them - an item that needs a GM to remove after a time period. Sorta like an electric dog bracelet or similar that reduces skills for a timeperiod compared to the offense.

[____________The Grip]

Ellusion - they could just switch to another character and continue grief playing. accounts need to be terminated/suspended but FC is probably leery (understandably) of losing revenue so we get a free-for-all of "play as you like as long as you pay". If AO had the player base of, say, EQ there would be more punishment for unacceptable play. however, you could make the argument that NOT cancelling/suspending griefer accounts loses FC revenue from players that are fed up with grief play.

could i have used "grief" more times?

[______________Scorus]

Originally posted by The Grip
Ellusion - they could just switch to another character and continue grief playing. accounts need to be terminated/suspended

Something needs to be done, but not this! OOC rule violations require OOC responses and IC rule violations should be met with IC responses. Will they just turn around and violate IC rules with another character? Perhaps. But when they see that big event happening and know their 100+ level can't participate, then maybe they will think twice next time. If not, then their stay in confinement will be even longer.

But hopefully they will just get made, take their ball and go home. That tends to be the response of people like Aberic. Funcom will lose a player that way, but they would save themselves so many more...

Scorus

[____________OnlySolo]

First that springs to mind is just wiping the token board and make them neutral.

Nonononono! We don't want them! We neuts have a bad enough reputation without everyone thinking we're omni rejects. Neutrals are people, too- how would you feel if your home town was turned into a criminal den?

I do, agree, though, that something needs to be done to these idiots (cough)Freen(cough), who deliberate and totally OOC break up events just 'because they can'. It's irritating and childish. Perhaps some sort of 'criminal' flag on their character, so that along with their alignment, people saw that they had been a traitor to their side?