me no evil omnitech

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 8th, 2003, 08:38:06

((OOC: Okay, here we go (if you haven't read the WHOLE "Prophet Without Honour", this might not make complete sense):

#1 - The "Shadowlands" is the scene of an ancient conflict, and is the source of the original of mankind (fact). Now, there are 2 sides "down there", and both sides are immortal. On the one hand, you have the people behind Sara Caroll and Alissa's clan (the Truth Dream people); on the other, you have the people behind Roman - the "pre-Omega".

#2 - Omni-Tek is controlled by the latter of those two. It is the "rebirth" of sorts of FarmaTek, and is headed by the SAME person (it's not Ross, so don't go thinking that).

#3 - Both groups obviously have TREMENDOUS interest in whatever the SL holds; it holds the secret to immortality (and maybe more).

#4 - It is implied (in "Prophet Without Honour") that the group in which Roman finds himself (and hence, Omni-Tek), is the "evil" side. That's why ALL Omni-Tek employees will be considered "devils" in SL.

#5 - THIS DOES NOT mean that the form you take in your "shadow breed" will constantly BE a devil. It was said in one of the Dev chats (I think) that what you actually look like will be based more on what you do in game as time goes on; hence, it is logical to assume that OTers that start as devils HAVE THE POSSIBILITY available to them to become "angels", so long as they act right (sorry Temp, I know you were hoping for your Halo

).

#6 (and TOTALLY unrelated, but in response to Rejkavik) - the "clanners" actually didn't blow up that building (which was in Omni-1, by the way). Not going to give ANYTHING away (and Uwen, don't say anything), but you should watch the animated episodes again, and then read the post by Nyadach of the Independent Rubi-Kans (in this forum somewhere - "The Story is Out There") and THEN ask yourself who really blew that building up, and who is REALLY behind the Dust Brigade. I can assure you, it's not the clans.....

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 8th, 2003, 08:39:11

((Uwen!!! Shhhhhhhhh! Let them figure it out for themselves!))

**UwensBack** · Mar 8th, 2003, 08:53:32

((Sowwie!

))

**______________Jypsie** · Mar 8th, 2003, 19:11:30

OOC

Well, the thing about dealing with PWH is its the backstory, and setting. You can only use some of the information in it, mostly just to get a feel for what the AO universe is like. You can't (or shouldn't) go running around IC screaming that Omni-Tek is run by the devil and we're all going to hell for being loyal little minions. Well, you can, but expect to be treated like your a couple bananas short of a fruitcase.

At the same time, no one runs around naming themselves "Dr. Evil" and "Muahahahaha!"'ing all the time. Well, they shouldn't, or they again, fall into the case of fruit and are generaly counter-productive RPers.

With Jypsie, I've done some bad things. Never get caught really,and I"m of course not going to go into detail's, since it would hamstring my character to bring into the light what I've done. But even then, she does not consider herself evil. She works for the good of Omni-Tek and everyone in the company *snaps off a /salute*. But, in fact, she is a bloodthirsty, manipulative, warmonger that is going to burn for her actions.

But, IMNSHO, Omni-Tek is evil, if you work for it you are either in the know, and are a twisted individual; or you are moraly vacant/irresponsible and attempting to act like none of it is your fault/as bad as it seems, and therefore you are "good."

We're all gonna burn, and I'm bringing the kerosene with me.

I'm just gonna take all you clanners with me

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 8th, 2003, 19:22:31

Originally posted by Jypsie
I'm just gonna take all you clanners with me

And if we refuse to come along?

Seriously though, "IC", NO ONE knows what's really going on, and no one knows that there's a sadistic little Omega burried under the soil of Rubi-Ka hittin' switches. I still haven't met anyone that acts like they know all of this IC, so I think people are behaving quite responsibly.

**UwensBack** · Mar 8th, 2003, 19:46:07

((Yes, I don't use anything from the PWH IC AFAIK. I'm only saying that OmniTek is in fact evil up high OOC, which I don't think IC. IC I just think they are out for profit, not to destroy me

))

**____________Marlamin** · Mar 8th, 2003, 20:04:48

( I get to be demon while the Clanners gets to be pansy angels.. Dont see a problem in there

)

**Ashaz** · Mar 8th, 2003, 20:10:30

hey! I wana be a demon to!! Do I have to be an angel just cause I'm a clanner? =/

*Ponders torching the Tir mongol meat, just to show myself evil }

*

**UwensBack** · Mar 8th, 2003, 20:18:22

Originally posted by Emiliy
((Uwen!!! Shhhhhhhhh! Let them figure it out for themselves!))

((Though I would like to say I believed that before Nya's post

))

**_______________Suste** · Mar 9th, 2003, 00:53:45

hello all
((occ))
well to start off with in the book "Prophet Without Honor" the connection between omni-tek and omega is never even mentioned. i think you have forgotten what ICC stands for. There are many Hyper Corps out there and Omni is only one if them.(ie.SOL Banking) So that connection between Omega and Omni is a false one.

Also to follow the original thread the GOOD V. EVIL it is all a point of view. what i view as good you may view as evil. we have seen this time and again in human/sultis history. Most of us fall into the grey only those that do things excpionaly Evil or Good which most of you that feel your evil will probably be left depressed to find that your not as bad as you think you are

)

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 9th, 2003, 01:15:46

((OOC:

Actually Suste, had you read the WHOLE book - note that the entire novel is not posted on the AO page - you would know that Roman Dragovich Zubov, a.k.a. Roland Drake (who was the original "human" Omega, and the head of the Omega and FarmaTek) was the one who created and founded Omni-Tek Corporation. That is the connection, and it IS quite explicitly stated in Chapter 16.

And, there are also not "many" hyper-corporations. There are a total of seven (this is mentioned in the timeline, and the only hyper-corporations that are named in the literature are: Omni-Tek; Sol Banking Corporation; TruSpace Networks; and Harman Space Industries). A "hyper-corporation" is a corporation whose employees number in the billions. The ICC is, however, composed of a total of 263 corporations, all of whom have equal vote (this is in the timeline, as well).))

**______________Jypsie** · Mar 9th, 2003, 04:00:42

OOC

Well Suiste, that (a personal view of good and evil) is a subjective way at looking at things. Not a objective. I'm not disagreeing with you, each person's set of moral's determines what they feel is "good" and what is "evil." But, not matter someone's personal views, it does not change that universal constant of what is "good" and what is "evil."

Anytime you apply good and evil to a storyline, where those principles can be realisticly realized and represented by some outside force, such as when someone enters the Shadowlands and sees thier Soul's representation when viewed by a universal constant, judged by a scale outside thier own personal views, that universal constant must be set and cannot be controlled by each individual. I've always called it "Story Goodness."

An example is Dungeons and Dragons, which have spells and effects that only effect "Good" or "Evil" creatures/people. What determines who is good or evil? The universe, not the person. It's not a very intillectual way of handling the matter, but it is effective and it lays down universal laws/structure that everyone can follow and have a good time using them, rather than debating if that "Holy Nuke of Righteousness" can affect my Rogue for hours upon hours. The Rogue can debate for hours if her actions are good or evil, and makes for great RP, but guess what, the universe says you just got nuked, game on.

I used to feel the same way when playing White Wolf games, debating for hours after a session if my character's action warrented him/her loosing a point of "Humanity" when I felt that my character felt perfectly warrented commiting a certain act and that it was justified to themself and would cause no change in thier outlook on life. Then I realised something. My character is not this Universal Constant, my character is not the God/Devil of the universe, my character doesn't control what is good and what is evil, my character only looks at the universe with his/her own perception, and acts on it in that way. This perception does not affect how the universe perceves my character, though.

No matter how justified my character feels in an action, there is a force in the universe that slaps his/her soul on the wrist and says, "BAD!" *wags a finger*

So, no matter how justified Jypsie felt that night, as an officer of the law, she went into the Roompa Bar with Omni-Pol(greenies, not the guild, although I think they were there that night) and massacred Pajama clad Partygoers when they refused to follow orders to go home, that was a slap on the wrist.

I always play my characters with thier own personal moral view of what is good and evil, but I expect there to completly be some universal constant of what is good and evil that is not under my control. Just my characters are not aware of this and act as they feel they should.

Gimmie some horns, bat wings and a cute tail, please.

**______________Jypsie** · Mar 9th, 2003, 04:09:41

Originally posted by Emiliy

And if we refuse to come along?

That's why someone made Div Niner's, hun

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 9th, 2003, 04:29:23

Originally posted by Jypsie
That's why someone made Div Niner's, hun

Ya?! Well.....well....ummmm...

Emiliy runs and hides behind a nearby slayerdroid

Ha! Us engies make all sorts of nutty stuff!

:P

**UwensBack** · Mar 9th, 2003, 05:17:35

Originally posted by Jypsie

That's why someone made Div Niner's, hun

Pfff, I'll go Pit Lizard (when I can...) and fly away with your puny shots glancing off my scales! Right? Thats what dragons are supposed to do right? Bah....

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 9th, 2003, 05:20:00

I thought dragons spit fire?

**BugLight** · Mar 9th, 2003, 06:24:51

Originally posted by Emiliy
I thought dragons spit fire?

A Uwen dragon would spit witty rhetoric

hehe

**Demenzia** · Mar 9th, 2003, 07:27:47

((Marlamin, I don't doubt either I'll be given a pair of bat wings (hmm or can we have dark feather wings rather?) and of lilttle horna myself - not only because of my char's "twin persona", I mean

But the fact is, I honestly doubt all people would feel the same and think they "deserve" their bat wins (I wonder if they'd suit well to Dabblez or Barlau?

)

**UwensBack** · Mar 9th, 2003, 08:43:34

Originally posted by BugLight

A Uwen dragon would spit witty rhetoric hehe

MUHUHAHAHAH!

Uwen the Harmless Dragon

or

Uwen the Comic Relief Dragon

**______________Emiliy** · Mar 9th, 2003, 08:48:17

Ooooo oooo! I vote for #2!!

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