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    Borealis Pact signed in the ICC

    Overheard voice 1 - here's a transcript of what happened in the ICC HQ. Its hot stuff
    Overheard voice 2 - excellent xxxx, you have done well.

    19:02: Ramiyana shouts: Citizens of Rubi-Ka!!!
    19:02: Ramiyana shouts: The Nanomage Liberation Front and the Desert Winds have come here today to present to you a very important document that will draw the line on the profound continues destruction of Rubi-Ka
    19:02: Ramiyana shouts: Members of both orginaztions will present this document to you openly. But First, A short word from General Aazamon of the NLF.
    19:02: Ramiyana shouts: General Aazamon please step forward.
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: Hail Brothers, Sisters, and Friends. You are here today to witness a pardigm shift in the struggle on Rub-Ka
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: A great tragedy has fallen upon our people. We are here to turn the tide towards a Rubi-Ka forever and NANOMAGES FOREVER!!! TILL ALL ARE FREE!!
    19:03: Quinndexter shouts: TILL ALL ARE FREE
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: 28973 The first Homo Nano is born in an Omni-Tek laboratory. The inclusion of trace notum into the DNA sequencing of Nano foetuses means that this breed is able to live only on Rubi-Ka.
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: Omni-Tek did not create Nanomages like GOD created the universe. Nanomage kind is the ultimate in genetic engineering of an existing people!
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: Omni-Tek did not create Rubi-Ka, they may have begun the terraforming process, but that is all.
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: If the NOTUM mining continues both Rubi-Ka and NANOMAGE kind will perish!
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: Maybe not tommorrow, or even in my own life time, but soon and in my childrens lifetime there will be no Rubi-Ka or the Children of Nanomages if nothing is changed NOW!
    19:03: Aazamon shouts: We are hear today to make our long struggle known to the GALAXY! The **** of Rubi-Ka must stop!
    19:04: Aazamon shouts: We will not allow the greed of the galaxy be the demise of our people and only home! Rubi-Ka is no normal planet
    19:04: Aazamon shouts: Notum is no normal element. Rubi-Ka is ALIVE!! NOTUM is it's life force!
    19:04: Aazamon shouts: And NANOMAGES have a special connection to it! We are one with Rubi-Ka! We hear her pain!
    19:04: Aazamon shouts: THE MINING MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS!
    19:04: Aazamon shouts: TILL ALL ARE FREE!!!
    19:04: Fleshreaper shouts: till all are free!
    19:04: Ramiyana shouts: Thank You General Aazamon. Very Passoinate indeed.
    19:04: Ramiyana shouts: Now please ladies and gentlemen if you turn your attention to Naxilite, Leader of the very noble cause Desert Winds. He would like to address everyone.
    19:04: Ramiyana shouts: Sir Naxilite please step forward.
    19:05: Naxilite shouts: thankyou Ramiyana
    19:05: Sead cheers for Naxilite
    19:05: Naxilite shouts: Rubi-Kans!
    19:05: Naxilite shouts: Your planet is being destroyed
    19:05: Auntbeast claps politely
    19:05: Naxilite shouts: This place we stand in, the ICC HQ, it represents the presence of money hungry corporations
    19:05: Naxilite shouts: The Miners who plunder Rubi-KA
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: They strip Rubi-Ka and pollute our fragile planet
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: The do not care!
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: They do not live here, and if they do they will move on when they are done
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: But I am Rubi-Kan
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: I will not move
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: I will defend my home, she will not be destroyed
    19:06: Naxilite shouts: Desert winds and the NLF will fight to protect their homes
    19:07: Naxilite shouts: All of us who are Rubi-Kan
    19:07: Naxilite shouts: Today we have learnt that Omni-Mining are to provide minign equipment
    19:07: Naxilite shouts: to many groups
    19:07: Naxilite shouts: this will spread the curse of minig further over our planet
    19:07: Naxilite shouts: Desert Winds and NLF oppose them
    19:07: Fleshreaper nods in agreement
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: we will not stnad idfly by and see out home destroyed
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: We chanllenge Omni Mining to a public debate on their move
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: No more mining!
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: Protect our Home
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: Free Rubi-Ka!
    19:08: Naxilite shouts: Thankyou all
    19:09: Fleshreaper: shout well Spoken!
    19:09: Ramiyana shouts: Thank You Naxilite!!! Very Strong words.
    19:09: Ramiyana shouts: Now with out further delay it is with my deepest pleasure to present to you Queen Fleshreaper!! Of the Nanomage Liberation Front.
    19:09: Oldgrugrimm claps and cheers
    19:09: Blix01 claps
    19:09: Vimes cheers
    19:09: Titanprime nods
    19:09: Fleshreaper looks around her
    19:09: Fleshreaper shouts: Brothers and sisters of Rubi ka, Fellow Nanomage, We are here before you for a great purpose. Your whole lives, you have been taught to accept the values that they have forced down your throat, to follow in the footsteps of countless generations before you, and of course, to obey!
    19:10: Fleshreaper shouts: To obey their rules without Question! Whether those rules be laid down by Clans, Omni, or the worst offender of all, the Treacherous ICC! If you ask those in power on any side, why we squeeze the notum from this great planet, the answer is the same, regardless of affiliation, "We mine it because it is there to be mined, there is profit to be made, and it is our right".
    19:10: Fleshreaper shouts: I stand before you today, look all of rubi ka in the eye and say NAY! IT IS NOT A RIGHT TO MINE NOTUM! In fact, It is a VIOLATION OF RIGHTS!
    19:10: Fleshreaper shouts: Look amongst yourselves, and see the NANOMAGE people amongst you. Look at them and know that they were created, they were manufactured, they were BRED for only one purpose:
    19:11: Fleshreaper shouts: To better utilize notum in the advancement of the great bottom line: PROFIT.
    19:11: Fleshreaper shouts: Look at the Mighty ATROX amongst you, and know that they are simply the result of foul experiments to create the ultimate mining tool, again, to increase PROFIT.
    19:11: Fleshreaper shouts: Well now, the media will tell you that the tide has turned. That Nanomage and Atrox have rights and privleges as the rest of the world does.
    19:11: Deathsfixer shouts: i resent that!
    19:11: Majorbash lowers his head to the ground in sorrow
    19:11: Fleshreaper shouts: Nay, the tide has not turned! If you think that it has, you have been blinded! Our great peoples are being manipulated, into fighting their age old war.
    19:12: Fleshreaper shouts: The Clans, Omni, Even the "Neutrals", think that their war is one of differing values, but IT IS NOT. Each faction is fighting for the same things: Money, Power, Territory!
    19:12: Fleshreaper shouts: Nay, you say? Think back, when not so long ago it was only Omni who raped this planet of its notum supply, the Clans vowed it would not be the same if they were given the opportunity.
    19:12: Fleshreaper shouts: And now, now that the Corporate Devil, ICC has deregulated notum mining, The pillaging of Rubi ka has increased TENFOLD, and no faction is innocent of these crimes.
    19:13: Fleshreaper shouts: This war which was once claimed to be a war of differing values has become nothing less then a struggle for profit and power by a select few.
    19:13: Fleshreaper shouts: Do you not realize that the NANOMAGE people are one with the Notum supply? We were built bound to it, Notum courses through our veins, it is our life blood.
    19:13: Fleshreaper shouts: Without notum all around us, we shall PERISH. But those mining notum naturally laugh this fact off. We are merely "In the way" of their bottom line, a hurdle to their increased profits!
    19:14: Fleshreaper shouts: The NANOMAGE LIBERATION FRONT is here to put a stop to old Solitus dominated values of Greed and profit.
    19:14: Fleshreaper shouts: We are here to put an end to the **** of Rubi ka, and the extermination of the NANOMAGE PEOPLE, AT ALL COSTS! Brothers and sisters! People of Rubi ka!
    19:14: Firestormxs2 shouts: Watch ur tongue terrorist!
    19:14: Fleshreaper shouts: There are no longer three factions in this war, only two! The old war between Omni Tek and the clans is but a distraction to the ONE TRUE WAR THAT HAS BEGUN!
    19:14: Fleshreaper shouts: There are those who are for stopping the notum mining and Saving the Nanomage people and Rubi Ka, and those who walk the path of greed and care nothing for the Future of our people or this planet.
    19:14: Fleshreaper shouts: The Borealis Pact, the document we present to you today, will draw the line in clear terms. General Lydadoc, Step forward and present, my sister:
    19:15: Pheramoan wonders if the NLF has a tower
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "It is the purpose of this document is to put an end to any and all notum mining on Rubi ka."
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "It is understood that excessive notum mining is rampant throughout the planet, and that its"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "effects risk destruction of the the people of Rubi Ka, and particularly the nanomage people,"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "whom without certain amounts of notum in the atmosphere and planet crust will die, "
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "as they are unable to live without this resource."
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "The effects are also felt by the planet itself, which is slowly being destroyed from the soil up"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: ", as its resources are stripped away far too quickly. It is the intent of this agreement,"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "to put a stop to all notum mining, by reaping punishment on all those who would dare continue this assault"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "on Rubi ka and her people, and to bring together those groups of enlightened individuals who realize that"
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "we must protect this planet and its various inhabitants, and place them ahead of profit and power."
    19:15: Lydadoc shouts: "We, the undersigned members, have agreed to recognize and follow the following articles. "
    19:16: Lydadoc: And now to present the first article of the Borealis pact.
    19:16: Hheltoo shouts: Article 1: Mining for Export and Profit
    19:16: Hheltoo seems to look everyone in the eye, a dark cloud of worry momentarily clouds her face.
    19:16: Hheltoo shouts: The mining of Notum is indeed unnecessary, as the inhabitants of Rubi ka do not require the mines for daily functioning, operation or survival.
    19:16: Hheltoo eyes lose their focus as she feels the land of Rubi Ka inside her, all about here, and passing through her as the breath of Life itself.
    19:16: Hheltoo shouts: Notum mining on Rubi Ka has reached epidemic proportion.
    19:16: Hheltoo shouts: Corporations, Guilds, and Interest Groups across Rubi Ka relentlessly pillage the planet of its notum strictly for profit, money, and power.
    19:17: Hheltoo face grows sad as she looks around their dieing world yet hoping they will listen.....................
    19:17: Sagridis: Epidemic.. It'll be less of an epidemic when all you nanogimps are dead.
    19:17: Ramiyana shouts: Thank you Hheltoo
    19:17: Ramiyana shouts: Coilius of the Desert Winds please step forward and present Article 2A of the Borealis Pact
    19:17: Coilius shouts: Article 2: Effects of excessive mining
    19:18: Coilius shouts: The effects of notum mining are indeed being felt by the planet of rubi ka, as eco systems are being altered and destroyed, and as a result, much of the planets flora and fauna is suffering, and even becoming extinct.
    19:18: Fleshreaper shouts: till alla re free!
    19:18: Zargin shouts: Article 3: Defense of the Planet and It's people:
    19:18: Sagridis shouts: You'll be free when you're dead!
    19:19: Delincio shouts: the fish wasnt minings fault, it was omni incompatence when doing the rewiring of the weather control, aint there fault for not knowing the dif between red and black wires
    19:19: Zargin shouts: We, the undersigned members of the Borealis Pact, and the Organization members we represent, vow to take the following actions to prevent and correct the aforementioned wrongs:
    19:19: Zargin shouts: A) Band together in defense of the planet and its people, by stopping any and all notum mining no matter the cost.
    19:19: Hheltoo shouts: Rise up against the MINING of NOTUM our Lifes blood to the Rubi Ka People.
    19:19: Zargin shouts: B) Offer this document and membership in this pact in good faith, to all interested parties, regardless of faction or political interest. A discretionary signing period will be given to all guilds presented with this document. IF membership is declined, or this offer goes unanswered at the conclusion of the determined signing period, then those guilds or individuals will be assumed to be enemies of the Pact members, the people of Rubi Ka, and the planet itself.
    19:19: Vimes shouts: War shall be declared on all those who fail to meet the terms of the document,
    19:19: Vimes shouts: and all BORPAC members will recognize those guilds and individuals as enemies,
    19:19: Vimes shouts: and seize any and all controlled lands,
    19:19: Vimes shouts: ,and either offer them back when BORPAC conditions are met, or redistribute them to BORPAC members.
    19:20: Vimes shouts: Violators
    19:20: Vimes shouts: may be given a second chance to comply after their lands have been taken,
    19:20: Sagridis shouts: Declare war on this!
    19:20: Vimes shouts: provided,
    19:20: Vimes shouts: they agree and sign the pact, but this is at the discretion of the BORPAC members who seize the land.
    19:20: Oldgrugrimm mumbles a good omi is a dead omi
    19:20: Ramiyana shouts: Thank you Vimes.
    19:20: Ramiyana shouts: Blix01 of the Desert Winds please step forward and present Article 5 of the Borealis Pact
    19:20: Blix01 shouts: Article 5. Assistance and defense of allies.
    19:20: Blix01 shouts: Section A
    19:21: Blix01 shouts: IT is the option of all BORPAC members to assist and aid fellow members if they are under attack or ask for assistance. *This is at the discretion of each BORPAC guild leader, as guild duties shall always be given priority FIRST AND FOREMOST.
    19:21: Blix01 shouts: Should said guild feel as though they have the resources and time to assist, it is their prerogative in each given situation. Any attack on a fellow BORPAC member or violation of the above articles will result in immediate expulsion from the pact, and war will be declared upon the offending member.
    19:21: Blix01: Section B
    19:22: Blix01 shouts: Representatives from each BORPAC member guild will meet regularly to discuss ratification of new members, issues, and possible pact violations.
    19:22: Blix01 shouts: Meeting time and place will be determined.

    Fleshreaper shouts: With this Pact, The Line has been Drawn! Any and all are welcome to join us and take a stand for what you know in your heart is right! The Choice is simple! You are either for The Nanomage People, and the Future of Rubi Ka herself, or you are against us!
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    Recovering file

    be on your guard pilgrim
    File ends

  2. #2

    The pact itself

    The Pact itself

    The Borealis Pact

    It is the purpose of this document is to put an end to any and all notum mining on Rubi ka. It is understood that excessive notum mining is rampant throughout the planet, and that its effects risk destruction of the the people of Rubi Ka, and particularly the nanomage people, whom without certain amounts of notum in the atmosphere and planet crust will die, as they are unable to live without this resource. The effects are also felt by the planet itself, which is slowly being destroyed from the soil up, as its resources are stripped away far too quickly. It is the intent of this agreement, to put a stop to all notum mining, by reaping punishment on all those who would dare continue this assault on Rubi ka and her people, and to bring together those groups of enlightened individuals who realize that we must protect this planet and its various inhabitants, and place them ahead of profit and power.

    We, the undersigned members, have agreed to recognize and follow the following articles.

    Article 1: Mining for Export and Profit

    b) a) The mining of Notum is indeed unnecessary, as the inhabitants of Rubi ka do not require it for daily functioning, operation, or survival.
    c) Notum mining on Rubi Ka has reached epidemic proportion, as corporations, guilds and interest groups across Rubi Ka relentlessly pillage the planet of its notum strictly for profit, money, and power.

    Article 2: Effects of excessive mining

    a) The effects of notum mining are indeed being felt by the planet of rubi ka, as eco systems are being altered and destroyed, and as a result, much of the planets flora and fauna is suffering, and even becoming extinct.
    b) The inhabitants are suffering as a result of the compromised eco system, not the least of which are the NANOMAGE. As the notum decreases below a certain level, the nanomage begin to suffer from Notum Deprivation Sickness. Symptoms include Nausea, Dry mouth, dyskinesia, hypotension, delirium, vomiting, lightheadedness, anemia, and most severely, death.

    Article 3: Defense of the Planet and It’s people:

    We, the undersigned members of the Borealis Pact, and the Organization members we represent, vow to take the following actions to prevent and correct the aforementioned wrongs:
    a) Band together in defense of the planet and its people, by stopping any and all notum mining no matter the cost.
    b) Offer this document and membership in this pact in good faith, to all interested parties, regardless of faction or political interest. A discretionary signing period will be given to all guilds presented with this document. IF membership is declined, or this offer goes unanswered at the conclusion of the determined signing period, then those guilds or individuals will be assumed to be enemies of the Pact members, the people of Rubi Ka, and the planet itself.

    Article 4: War Measures:

    a) War shall be declared on all those who fail to meet the terms of the document, and all BorPac members will recognize those guilds and individuals and enemies, and seize any and all controlled lands, and either offer them back when BORPAC conditions are met, or redistribute them to BORPAC members.
    b) Violators may be given a second chance to comply after their lands have been taken, provided they agree and sign the pact, but this is at the discretion of the BORPAC members who seize the land.

    Article 5: Assistance and defense of allies:

    a) IT is the option of all BORPAC members to assist and aid fellow members if they are under attack or ask for assistance. *This is at the discretion of each BORPAC guild leader, as guild duties shall always be given priority FIRST AND FOREMOST. Should said guild feel as though they have the resources and time to assist, it is their prerogative in each given situation. Any attack on a fellow BORPAC member or violation of the above articles will result in immediate expulsion from the pact, and war will be declared upon the offending member.
    b) Representatives from each BORPAC member guild will meet regularly to discuss ratification of new members, issues, and possible pact violations. Meeting time and place will be determined.
    Omni-Pol intelligence report for Peregrinus Praecautus
    Known applicant of Third Faction
    Warning! Record is being accessed by an external source of unknown origin.
    Recovering file

    be on your guard pilgrim
    File ends

  3. #3
    Since using nanos, some wepaons and reclaim tech uses up notum, do the member orgs swear off use of nanos, notum using weapons, and reclaim insurance?
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  4. #4
    Along these same lines, once the mine has been "freed" how you you make sure it is no longer mined without placing a mining tower of your own, or does someone plan to stand watch over each site?
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  5. #5
    Originally posted by Vixentrox
    Since using nanos, some wepaons and reclaim tech uses up notum, do the member orgs swear off use of nanos, notum using weapons, and reclaim insurance?
    Vix,

    In a perfect world, there is no need for nanos, reclaim or weapons. However, Rub-Ka is far from perfect. So in order to defend yourself, the use of Weapons, Reclaim & Nanos are required. But those three examples do not use much notum at all. More importantly, the notum that is used, remains on the planet.

    What the NLF & Desert Winds are trying to accomplish is halt all Notum mining for exportation off planet. Which is only used for profit and greed. They are trying to save the planet. Save the planet for all of us!

    I may no longer be an official member of the NLF, but I still hold their beliefs in HIGH regard. I agree with the BORPACT!

    TILL ALL ARE FREE!!

  6. #6
    Originally posted by Kyrstina
    Along these same lines, once the mine has been "freed" how you you make sure it is no longer mined without placing a mining tower of your own, or does someone plan to stand watch over each site?
    Just keep knocking them down, I suppose. Sooner or later, the violators will run out of money, or take the hint. The NLF will NOT place a tower, ever. At least that was the philosophy when I was a member. I do not believe that it will ever change from that stance..

    TILL ALL ARE FREE!!

    -Tifanyx

  7. #7
    Join the Clans and battle Omni-Tek, the sole exporters of Notum off-world.

    No Clan organization ships Notum off-planet. All Clan mining operations sell their notum directly to Omni-Tek of Rubi-Ka, which then exports it for resale in the galactic market.

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  8. #8
    Jynne,

    He is Clan...a member of my Clan actually. But he IS anano-mage so I understand his concerns. He and I have talked at length about the delima of nano-mages and notum mining.
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  9. #9
    I dont think Jynne was talking specifiaclly to him. But to all the people concerned about the exportation.

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  10. #10
    Originally posted by Jynne
    Join the Clans and battle Omni-Tek, the sole exporters of Notum off-world.

    No Clan organization ships Notum off-planet. All Clan mining operations sell their notum directly to Omni-Tek of Rubi-Ka, which then exports it for resale in the galactic market.

    Okay, so the clans mine it, then sell it to Omni-Tek and they export it? That makes the clans just as bad. Clans who mine notum are accomplices to the Omni-Tek PREMEDITATED MURDER of this planet!!

    -Tifanyx

  11. #11
    Looks like nobody got the joke. Well, maybe Tifanyx did but apparently he doesn't think it's very funny.

    However, if Omni-Tek were to be defeated and the ICC removed from governance over the planet's lease, it's fairly likely that many (though of course not all) Clans would not continue notum mining for offworld distribution, but rather keep it for local use.

    This is all academic, of course... by all accounts, from reliable and independent Clan and Omni studies, notum is ridiculously abundant on Rubi-Ka. Considering that less than one fourth of the planet has been terraformed and only a fraction of that fraction is actually being mined; and that this fraction of a fraction is not anywhere near depletion for generations, I feel that concerns about notum mining being the murder of the planet are misinformed - if not deliberately misleading in the pursuit of another agenda.

    I have, however, noticed adverse effects on the various wildlife due to mining bases. Most creatures seem to actively avoid zones of 100% suppression gas, which haa led to a great deal of habitat loss in areas with towers. In some cases this is a good thing - it has made some of the more remote areas much safer from combat-mutants, nano freaks, and cyborgs.

    In others, it has pushed the various small animals, and betimes some larger ones, out of the wilderness and towards inhabited areas. This is doubtlessly resulting in increasing amounts of pestilence from such creatures as leets, rollerrats, lizards and blubbags as they are forced to enter cities and dwellings in search of food and shelter.

    Interestingly, and as an aside, it is actually in the best interest of the Omni-Tek Corporation's bottom line to let the Clans do all of the notum mining and then mark it up for resale. The Clans bear the costs of production and maintenance, and of having their towers blown up by disgruntled Omnis on a regular basis. Omni-Tek... makes money with no outlay.

    In the meantime, the small battles that keep eruption over mining bases allow Omni-Tek to claim that the notum supply is in danger and that production is limited by the violence, and therefore charge a higher price in the off-world markets.

    This may be the rationale behind the current lack of motivation among Omni troops to fight back strongly against the Clans in the various Notum Wars. Enough battles are fought to drive up the price of notum, but not so many that the Clans cease production for Omni-Tek's profits.
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  12. #12
    Originally posted by Vixentrox
    He is Clan...a member of my Clan actually. But he IS anano-mage so I understand his concerns. He and I have talked at length about the delima of nano-mages and notum mining.
    Yes, I am clan. But I am Applicant of Whisper's Edge, not a member, yet.

    I value the talks about the plight of the Nanomage people that I have had with you at "The Cup", and I look forward to many more. But the BORPACT is not just about Nanomages. Its about the planet as a whole. I love this planet and will not stand by and watch it die!

    -Tifanyx

  13. #13
    Originally posted by Jynne
    Looks like nobody got the joke. Well, maybe Tifanyx did but apparently he doesn't think it's very funny.

    by all accounts, from reliable and independent Clan and Omni studies, notum is ridiculously abundant on Rubi-Ka. Considering that less than one fourth of the planet has been terraformed and only a fraction of that fraction is actually being mined; and that this fraction of a fraction is not anywhere near depletion for generations, I feel that concerns about notum mining being the murder of the planet are misinformed - if not deliberately misleading in the pursuit of another agenda.
    Jokes?? Our planet is DYING and you make JOKES?

    Where is the independent Neutral study? Does one exist? Sure it does! But that was hushed because it supported the NLF & Desert Winds findings on the depletion of Notum and everything they've laid out under Article 2 of the BORPACT.

    The point is, for every independent study you can produce for one side, a study can also be produced to contradict everything the other study mentioned.

    So in effect, who are you going to believe? Thats the main question! Side with the planet or side with profit and greed.

    Nanomage are one with the planet. You are either with us or against us.

    -Tifanyx

  14. #14
    While I do NOT speak for my guild, I have always and continue to support the efforts of NLF to drastically restrict notum mining. I am less and less bothered by the radical approach taken as time goes on and the inhabitants of Rubika turn a blind eye on the problems layed out by the NLF and Desert Winds.

    I might also add that I have not ever seen ONE credit paid by Omnitech for the notum mined by the various orgs I've been involved with (WE and Arion). I haven't figured out yet if it is because none of these mines have managed to make it into production before being knocked down by the very company that wants to buy the notum....or, if OT has just be stiffing all of us and basically stealing our notum.

    For the most part coffee has been a much more lucrative commodity for me...and many more of us are dependent on coffee than on notum. I say leave the notum alone...I'd like to propose to Nevver that after she has stripped the trees from Belial for furniture that we replant in huge coffee plantations.

  15. #15
    Originally posted by Tifanyx


    Jokes?? Our planet is DYING and you make JOKES?

    Where is the independent Neutral study? Does one exist? Sure it does! But that was hushed because it supported the NLF & Desert Winds findings on the depletion of Notum and everything they've laid out under Article 2 of the BORPACT.

    The point is, for every independent study you can produce for one side, a study can also be produced to contradict everything the other study mentioned.

    So in effect, who are you going to believe? Thats the main question! Side with the planet or side with profit and greed.

    Nanomage are one with the planet. You are either with us or against us.

    -Tifanyx
    The planet isn't dying. The nanomages aren't dying. Maybe if you did some reputable research instead of proffering the biased figures of racial extremists and eco-terrorists, you'd realize this.

    OOC: Read the Rubi-Ka Timeline. Do a search on the Archives for posts by Ragnar Tornquist (the original story consultant/developer for AO). Notum's not rare. It's probably the third-most common substance on Rubi-Ka, after hydrogen and idiots
    Taren "Jynne" Suitt, Level 216/16 Eternalist
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  16. #16
    Originally posted by Jynne

    OOC: Read the Rubi-Ka Timeline. Do a search on the Archives for posts by Ragnar Tornquist (the original story consultant/developer for AO). Notum's not rare. It's probably the third-most common substance on Rubi-Ka, after hydrogen and idiots
    /ooc
    Hey, I know that, you know that, they probably know that too. However, let's be honest, this eco-slant makes for a more interesting and morally compelling conflict than the old Omni-Clan thing. Even as misguided idealists the NLF and Desert Wind enrich our experience of AO. If anything we need more issues, more things to worry, argue and maybe even fight about. And while a reasoned, measured ic response helps add flavour and consistency to the Rubi-Kan political arena, there is no need to go for the kill.
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

  17. #17

    Borealis Pact Inquiries

    By the way. For those wise and open minded people of Rubi Ka, who feel that their organizations ideals match those of The NLF and Desert Winds, we gladly welcome you to discuss signing the pact, and becoming BORPACT members. Whether you are CLan, Omni, or neutral, it matters not. Remember, there are really only two sides in the One True War. Till All Are Free!
    Founder and Original Leader of The Nanomage Liberation Front (RIP)
    Founder, Original, and Former Leader of Third Faction. (Ask Funcom)

    (www.thirdfaction.com Reroll Neutral, the true Underdogs!)

  18. #18
    Originally posted by Savoy


    /ooc
    Hey, I know that, you know that, they probably know that too. However, let's be honest, this eco-slant makes for a more interesting and morally compelling conflict than the old Omni-Clan thing. Even as misguided idealists the NLF and Desert Wind enrich our experience of AO. If anything we need more issues, more things to worry, argue and maybe even fight about. And while a reasoned, measured ic response helps add flavour and consistency to the Rubi-Kan political arena, there is no need to go for the kill.
    It's a major pet peeve of mine, on the OOC level, Savoy. Many otherwise excellent roleplayers tend to ignore the most basic fundamentals of Rubi-Ka's history, present situation, physics and metaphysics and claim that it's true... when it's not.

    This isn't just because I like being right (of course I do, that's part of being human ). It's because if a wide variety of different people are all going to roleplay together, we need to obey the same ground rules about what is, and isn't, factual or possible on Rubi-Ka. Otherwise we're trying to play the same game by two different sets of rules... which is a contradiction. If your OOC assumptions about the world are different from mine, whoever is right doesn't matter... our ability to interact as players in the same game world is curtailed, if not removed entirely.

    The game code engine provides the rules for interacting with the static environment as a gamer. The timeline and the official story info that we have from other sources, are the rules for interacting on an in-character level with other players.

    It's okay for people to twist the truth or lie in-character. It's something else entirely to take a line of RP based on faulty information and then cling to the OOC position that your RP is true when the official storyline, what of it there is and being the only official source of gameworld data we have, directly refutes you. It's like a basball player trying to claim that tackling is allowed on the basepaths.

    Notum grows on trees. It's in the air you breathe. It's not running out. It's not up for debate or differing interpretations OOCly. I'm sorry that it flies in the face of some peoples' RP... maybe it doesn't and I'm ranting about something when they are, in fact, just lying on an in-character level. But it doesn't seem like they are, so I'm pointing it out.

    The crux of my argument/rant/peeve is this: We can't play together as equals and having enjoyable and meaningful roleplay gaming experiences, if we don't play by the same rules. And the official information from FC, is the rules.

    And don't get me started about suppression gas. If it's over 25% you can't hit someone. Period. You can't knock them out, or shoot them, get medevial on them, or go Jackie Chan on them.

    I didn't make this world; Jynne is just trying to live in it.
    Taren "Jynne" Suitt, Level 216/16 Eternalist
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  19. #19
    Originally posted by Jynne
    The planet isn't dying. The nanomages aren't dying. Maybe if you did some reputable research instead of proffering the biased figures of racial extremists and eco-terrorists, you'd realize this.
    From the medical lab of Dr Tiny
    Medical officer of Desert Winds

    Jynne there has been evidence that reclaim technology, which is dependent on notum is not working correcntly. Is this due to depletion of notum stocks or problems with the technology that have been kept from us by the developers? The subway in Borealis is full of rejected avatars created by the reclaim process. I suggest you inspect the place for your self or send some agents on your behalf. We have research and data on the beings in the subway, you can read it if you wish to see the work that is based on "biased figures of racial extremists and eco-terrorists".

    There is other cirumstantial evidence of nanomage suffering from notum deficiency sickness, this is invariably fatal. Also reports have reached us of individuals who are being afected by changes in notum levels.

    I am very much in favour a study to examine these reports to verify their authenticity and reliability.
    Omni-Pol intelligence report for Peregrinus Praecautus
    Known applicant of Third Faction
    Warning! Record is being accessed by an external source of unknown origin.
    Recovering file

    be on your guard pilgrim
    File ends

  20. #20
    If these people suceed and notum mining is stopped OmniTek will have no further use for the planet and therefore, if no profit is made, they will leave. Personally, I don't care about notum mining or notum, apart from the fact that I don't want the nanomage friends that I have to die. If you look at this rationally, no OmniTek employee would be allowed or would, in their right mind, support this as it would lead to the downfall of their company. However, if you are clan, there is no reason NOT to support it. Sure, you won't mine notum anymore, but if you can remember the time before we had access to notum, we did just fine. In my view, we did better back then. The economy was more diversified and we didn't depend on one single product. Many developing nations of ancient Earth relied too heavily on one export and that lead to their downfall.

    On a related note, why would any Nanomage work for OmniTek when OmniTek is killing them slowly? I don't quite understand that. It works the same for Atrox, but I supposed the reduced mental capacities of our Atrox brethren could account for some of that, the Nanomage are supposed to have enhanced mental capacities.

    ((OOC: Well, since OT is headed by Omega (which we don't know IC) it doesn't technically make sense for anyone, OPifex, Nano, Atro, and ESPECIALLY Solitus to work for them, but thats only knowledge OOC))

    In short, if all notum is stopped, it only helps the clans and neutrals and only hurts OmniTek. Therefore, it logically recieves my support.

    I hope everyone can appreciate the logical breakdown of how this can help. I apologise to the NLF if I left out idealogies, but including them would only clutter it and it makes as much sense leaving them out.
    Bliqz: "anything Uwen says is a vicious and ugly lie"

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