Could the Holders of Knowledge(tm) help answer this simple question ?
Where does one obtain the best prices when selling to shops ?
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Originally Posted by Mercatura
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After a few searches on the Forums, I came up with conflicting reports, which I assembled below. Could someone who knows their business please give the correct answer ?
Thank you in advance
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Trader shop is best.... You really do get like 2x what you would otherwise get.
Not nearly 2x as much. From memory:
Trader shop = 175%
Omni terminal with 'unique' icon (like armor, weapons)/Omni Map terminal/Omni Outdoor vendor = 150%
Clan outdoor vendor/Omni terminal with non unique icon (tradeskill shops for instance) = 125%
Clan terminal = 100%
So you'll only get 175/150 times as much from the trader shop as from a omni map terminal, that's about 17% extra. Since every 40 points complit will give you an extra 1% return from the shops, a trader will need to have at least <your complit> minus 175*40/150 (= 667) complit himself to make it profitable for you to sell it through that trader. So if you have 1.3K complit yourself don't go around asking lvl 50 traders to sell your ingots for you because you'll actually be losing money. Of course if the trader is equal level he'll probably have more complit then you, so you can still make more then 17% extra profit by asking a high level trader, but anything above that 17% is complit and not shop related.
I'm sure about the index numbers, but fuzzy on the exact clan side of things. For instance I'm not sure if the same difference exists between clan terminals with unique and the ones with non unique icons. Also no idea about neutral shops, but I think they pay the same as clan ones. Not that it matters much since you should never sell to clan or neut terminals anyway, omni or trader is always the better choice :)
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Originally Posted by Moscatinka
I tested it today and haven't found thatthe type of icon has anything to do with the price. I tried offering the same battle suits to diferent type of terminals in different Omni shops.
I did it on the same char, of course, and unbuffed.
It appears that terminals that have "OT" in their name pay the highest price. It must me "OT", not "Omni" or "Omni-Tech". So, "OT Basic attacks" or "OT Maps" or "OT Superior Augmentations" or even "OT Miir Female Tops" ( :) ) pay the same price. All the other terminals (like Basic Omni tools etc) that don't have OT in their names, pay lower prices. Outside traders with "OT" in their descriptions pay the same high price as OT-type terminals.
For a non-Omni, an ideal solution would be to sell to an OT Map terminal.
Double checked an confirmed, never thought it would be that easy :). The Unique Icon thingy seems to work mostly because if you enter any standard OT shop and pick a terminal with its own icon (armor, weapons, meds) they also happen to have "OT" in their name. Checking the name works a lot better though as that also includes the OT Map and OT Basic Tools shop which don't have their own icon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valvs
Did some tests with 3 items I picked randomly from my inv, this is what I got:
1. "OT" in the name: 53102
2. "Omni-Tek" in the name: 44251
3. Rest: 35401
This works out to the 150/125/100 index numbers.
Some examples of the 3 different categories that I tried:
1. OT Basic Armor, OT Basic Tools, OT Basic Weapons, OT Bartender (inside as well as outside), OT Furniture Merchant (outside).
2. Basic Omni-Tek XXXX Crystals (where XXXX is a profession name)
3. Basic Bookstore (in Omni Basic Store), Omni Basic Devices, Tradeskill item terminals (in Omni Basic Store), all neutral terminals and vendors I could find.
Couldn't test trader or clan shops for obvious reasons, maybe someone else can delight us by checking out where they fit in (although the 175 index for Trader shop is probably correct as I got the info from a old post on the trader forum, you'd expect they know what they're talking about ;)).
Tradershop - end of argument.
supporting evidence
selling to a NPC, psychology is a factor
selling to a store, CL is a factor.
Clans get more from omni map booths than any other clan store, (EXCEPT TRADER STORE)
so why risk it? just go trader.
ANi.
I wonder where you get your evidence. Psychology is not a factor when selling to NPC's at all. Never has been in the past 20 months I've been playing either. When selling to NPC's the same rules apply as when selling to terminals. +40 complit = 1% more pay/less cost. +100 psychology = no change at all. Tested again today as I did so many times before when someone claimed this and nope, they still didn't change it. Easy to check with a few psychology buffing items and a 1K board. Or is there some RK1/RK2 difference at play here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Animosity
And thanks to 1.4K selfbuffed complit it is far more profitable for me to sell stuff myself and go right back to getting more instead of finding a TL5+ trader (which I would need to even get as much as when I sell it myself, let alone more). Don't blame me, I didn't nerf them :p. But as you see it all depends, because a lvl 60 trader PvP twink really isn't going to do any good selling stuff for a 200+ non trader toon with maxed complit.
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Originally Posted by Moscatinka
I was going on what others had said, as my crat is still quite low, and my trader a bit higher, i have never done a comparison myself.
still,, trader pwnz when selling to the trad store.
ANi.
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Originally Posted by Mercatura
I took out the warning about 'old, possibly inaccurate data' because the info is still in line with what has been said here.
Thank you all for your participation. :)