Originally Posted by
Mountaingoat
At 3,240 visible AR (487 +aao from equip) with 12m (+100) based on the setup in your link and using fp adv (+300 aao), concentration (+150), pen buff (+75) and 90% checking perks, I have you at 4,787 perk AR with 12m and 4,567 perk AR without 12m. You have 1,112 AAO with 12m and 1,012 AAO without 12m. Your setup is not even optimized for +aao. With aao setup and bullseye you could perk well over 5k def. Borderline perking fixers through DoF. You being trox, if you use Mongo Rage you have 8,087 effective perk AR. My crat has 7600 def rating with DtB. You can perk my crat through DtB.
All this because AMS checking perks means AAO gets added twice.