Friday with Means - February 25th, 2011 - The dust is settling

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Originally Posted by Vhab

Different people have different interests.
We're in a day and age where many games are no longer won.
But also where arbitrary statistics itself can become the objective of the game for a particular player.

Imposing restrictions on obtaining these statistics might actually serve as encouragement to obtaining them.
If it's harder to obtain, there's more accomplishment in actually obtaining it.

Especially within an MMO where there's no set goal but yet a variety of activities are available, players create their own objectives.
And there will always be those who value a short cut in reaching these objectives.

I wouldn't call them sad. Maybe immoral for 'cheating' at most.
And likely, within their mindset, they're not cheating. They're faced with a challenge and overcame it.

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Dude, you're so Wall Street.

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Originally Posted by Stillkeeping

So uh, the general consensus, is we're glad Means moved to Montreal or no?

I've been to Montreal...I need to visit Oslo to compare them really.

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I think the general is yes, because they will have access to more of FC's dev team outside of the AO team now.

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Originally Posted by Technogen

I think the general is yes, because they will have access to more of FC's dev team outside of the AO team now.

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Plus english is an official language now :D

I'm actually curious (pure curiosity before you guys read into this lol) about the legal status of funcom employees in Norway while they worked there. Did they get an official corporate invitation to come and work in Norway, and get temporary work visas, or...? Means had kids actually born in Norway or still in Canada? I know Kintaii has U.S. citizenship? Does Norway allow for dual citizenship?

Just curious. :D

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Originally Posted by Stillkeeping

Plus english is an official language now :D

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It might be a "official language" but it is in Quebec where the language police will fine you if you even put up a sign that is in any other language than french:P

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Originally Posted by tasker_healer

It might be a "official language" but it is in Quebec where the language police will fine you if you even put up a sign that is in any other language than french:P

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iirc any sign or billboard etc.. that is put up in quebec must have the french 200% of the size of any other language also on the sign/board/etc

some loony laws never disappear i guess. also, you can't make a right hand turn on a red light in quebec, so i would expect someone on the ao team to get pulled over by the donut patrol at some point for doing it.

You can't turn on red in most countries you know (unless you have an exceptional green arrow or smth stating otherwise) :P

damn, I didn't know about that no right hand thing, glad I didn't go up last time because I would have gotten a ticket for it. Damn that's weird.

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Originally Posted by SoapTarder

iirc any sign or billboard etc.. that is put up in quebec must have the french 200% of the size of any other language also on the sign/board/etc

some loony laws never disappear i guess. also, you can't make a right hand turn on a red light in quebec, so i would expect someone on the ao team to get pulled over by the donut patrol at some point for doing it.

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Originally Posted by NoGoal

You can't turn on red in most countries you know (unless you have an exceptional green arrow or smth stating otherwise) :P

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Originally Posted by Technogen

damn, I didn't know about that no right hand thing, glad I didn't go up last time because I would have gotten a ticket for it. Damn that's weird.

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I bet it's just to mess with us Americans! :p Since I'm not aware of any state that doesn't allow right-on-red, unless posted.

Hell, In some areas of Atlanta, you can even turn left on red! :confused:

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

I bet it's just to mess with us Americans! :p Since I'm not aware of any state that doesn't allow right-on-red, unless posted.

Hell, In some areas of Atlanta, you can even turn left on red! :confused:

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Most Countries, American States are not countries :p

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Originally Posted by Ebondevil

Most Countries, American States are not countries :p

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but but but California has the 7th largest economy in the world!

Official language of the country has very little to do with official language for company's internal use.

The Oslo office is officially English too.

The language usually just shifts based on who's taking part in the conversation.
I doubt the Norwegians suddenly start talking more English among each other because of the location :)
They love their gibberish too much!

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Originally Posted by NoGoal

You can't turn on red in most countries you know (unless you have an exceptional green arrow or smth stating otherwise) :P

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if you're referring to countries that drive on the left side of the road, then I wont argue with you. they shouldn't be able to do a right hand turn on a red light.

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Originally Posted by tasker_healer

It might be a "official language" but it is in Quebec where the language police will fine you if you even put up a sign that is in any other language than french:P

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For real? Hahaha that's kinda awesome. I respect french; its a beautiful language and deserves to be the lingua franca. Well after Russian of course ;D

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Originally Posted by Vhab

The Oslo office is officially English too.

The language usually just shifts based on who's taking part in the conversation.
I doubt the Norwegians suddenly start talking more English among each other because of the location
They love their gibberish too much!

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Does this impy that Kintaii learned norwegian? And means? And Сергей, the russian coder?

I can't imagine a fellow russian learning the language. I mean, I wanted to at one point...but damn. My Iq's only like 110.

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

I bet it's just to mess with us Americans! :p Since I'm not aware of any state that doesn't allow right-on-red, unless posted.

Hell, In some areas of Atlanta, you can even turn left on red! :confused:

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Originally Posted by SoapTarder

if you're referring to countries that drive on the left side of the road, then I wont argue with you. they shouldn't be able to do a right hand turn on a red light.

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WAIT! Red light means stop, by all means ;o How can u turn around if u need to be stopped? :D

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Originally Posted by lainbr

WAIT! Red light means stop, by all means ;o How can u turn around if u need to be stopped? :D

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Americans drive on the wrong side of the road (to spite the British, like pretty much every country that drives on the right hand side of the road), and have very large roads with good views so it's safe for them to turn right on red as they should be able to see and stop for any pedestrians. They have signs up where it's not safe to do so as well.

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Originally Posted by Ebondevil

Americans drive on the wrong side of the road (to spite the British, like pretty much every country that drives on the right hand side of the road), and have very large roads with good views so it's safe for them to turn right on red as they should be able to see and stop for any pedestrians. They have signs up where it's not safe to do so as well.

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Weird... >.>

Here in Brazil, if the light is red, no matter if u turn left, right or go straight ahead (omg!) many things can happen: 1) You strike another car 2) You strike people! 3) You have to pay any damage you made while this super stupidness 4) You have to pay around 750 reais (the min salary is 540 atm) as infraction 5) You lost your drive license 6) They got your car. Itens 4 and 5 happens always, 6 when you had another infraction. So, Its a damn really bad thing to do!

In Florida if you are turning from a one way street to another one way street then you can also make left turn on red. Any turning on red felt really weird to me when I first came to USA from Europe.

oklahoma we can turn left on red if your turning off a one way to a one way.

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Originally Posted by krattonomic

oklahoma we can turn left on red if your turning off a one way to a one way.

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blasphemy!!!