2 hour MP pets=finally lower reqs on engi pets?

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Originally Posted by Klod

Is this one working?

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Not worth a damn. that perk has never made a bit of difference for me pulling agg, and that was even in my wuss dd untyped kyr grenade days.

Personally not sure as I don't have 10 perks free to use it. The 900 taunt requires Gadgeteer 10 to use. The Level 5 Taunt is only 105, http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=229120

Cadgeteer 10 gives you,

Trade and Repair
Mechanical engineering 55
Electrical engineering 55
Quantum physics 55
Weapon smithing 70
Nano and Aiding
Matter creation 30
Time and space 30

"Chaotic Energy" 20% chance of cast damage
"Siphon Box" 22% chance of cast DrainHit Health, recover 15% Energy -242 .. -1948 (hits for min)
"Reconstruction" Hot Hit Health 350 .. 350 60 hits, 3s delay
"Taunt Box" Taunt 900 (no way of knowing if it works or not)

*Insert whine about engie pets costing creds to cast here*

How could you miss this? It annoys me to no end. Oh and while you're at it reducing nanoskill reqs, remove the level locks from (all) engie bots please.

I have to agree that the original argument of "Engie pets are permanent and as such should be hard to cast" is not as valid anymore, as other profs are getting a 4x upgrade in the duration (dunno about Trader pets though?). Still, I'm rather interested what's up with the other new nanos and their nanoskill requirements, as ISotOS doesn't really last forever as of now.

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Originally Posted by bungerman

no maybe, go read means answer again. next patch. what set up sacrifice do the MP and crat have to make just to self their pets and pet buffs? please enlighten me

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I sacrify 10 seconds in AS, and a wholelot of AAO and Add damage... And that is with 10 perks in nanoskills.

This got agro from MPs and crats because it compares to them. Just ask for it in the right forum and with the reasonable suggestions and no MP or crat will come to bother.

The reason why MPs got a 2 hour pet is not pvp it is pvm. Making a team wait 2-3 minutes or being out of the fight in a team mish is unreasonable in today's fast gaming.

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Originally Posted by Technogen

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That is the whole of our working taunt toolset for the pets, the taunt on the snare does not work. (or else running around with it would make everything attack the pets)

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Technically it doesnt work like that. Taunts alone dont do anything, you need damage+taunt to actually aggro stuff. Which is why mongo and other typical taunts also have some minor damage on them.

But if pets are whooping a target, i believe snare taunt does work, it just far to tiny to make any difference.

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Originally Posted by viandante

I sacrify 10 seconds in AS

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Too bad Tigress caps at 12 seconds. You were saying?

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

odd you say that.

but if he was wearing the right jumpsuit... kintaii would so look like elvis.

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My mom made this a year or so back when she was first starting to figure out Photoshop. I'm still not entirely sure why.

I'm not believing you're a King, until i hear how you sing "Be bop a lula, she's my baby".

But , King or not, if you guys fix the reqs on our nanos, i bet there will be a bra or two flying at you!

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Originally Posted by Kintaii

My mom made this a year or so back when she was first starting to figure out Photoshop. I'm still not entirely sure why.

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The guy on the right looks a lot like you.

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Originally Posted by IHaveHugeNick

I'm not believing you're a King, until i hear how you sing "Be bop a lula, she's my baby".

But , King or not, if you guys fix the reqs on our nanos, i bet there will be a bra or two flying at you!

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don't forget the giant trox panties

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Originally Posted by Klod

Try with Game Suggestions and with a few nicely argumented posts. It obviously works.

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"Nicely argumented" must mean hijacked. Or wait, maybe it means its got a bunch of MPs and Crats flaming it to death with no justification whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Flyingengi

And yes, engi's can have lower reqs if all other pet classes get infinite pets and mp gets a new healpet for 220 ..k?

(crats and engis both got new pets since AI release. And we get...uhhh...a mezzpet that might land 1/50 tries and isn't much of an improvement)

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/cry me a river. So engy finally gets one thing new since release of LE that's actually useful and usable by our entire class and that's your justification that MPs need more love? Try harder next time.

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

oh noes... here we ago again, another engie complaint comparing apples to space ships. :(

the day our pets last forever, like yours, is the day your reqs will be lowered.

then again, i live in a reality where 2 hours doesnt equate to permanent.

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You must be the resident professional on complaint threads, you've only authored\posted in favor of almost every unnnerf MP thread and against every unnerf engy thread. Your opinion is probably about as unbiased as a jury of rapists on a molestation trial.

Also, for future reference permanent doesn't really mean anything when the pets never live for over 2 hours to begin with. If pets were really so permanent we wouldn't need to find an MP for mochams 5 times a day.

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

hmmmmm.. this gives me an idea!

if engies equate 2 hours to meaning permanent... then they dont need to have any buffs that last more than 2. so if an engie asks for a 4 or 8 hour buff, they really mean 2.

i can totally use this engie math! :)

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Too bad the only buffs we have that last over 2 hours are ACs (which are useless), composite tradeskills (which doesn't need to last 8 hours), and mechanized reflect shield (hey look, something useful, too bad the only reason its so long is because its harder to cast than even our pets).

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Originally Posted by Majoroutage_

Actually no, our MC/TS would still stay maxed. We'd just have to wear less nanobuffing crap to spawn them.

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Finally, someone that has a clue.

Seriously, the whole "i ned luv moar den u" crap is really getting old, grow the **** up already, and get used to the fact that a) you aren't the only people who play this game and b) life isn't fair.

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Originally Posted by viandante

Just ask for it in the right forum and with the reasonable suggestions and no MP or crat will come to bother.

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You haven't ever been to the Engineer forums have you? :p

It gets more heavily trolled by MP's and Crats than here.

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Originally Posted by egadsrk2

So if I'm reading this right, you're in a tissy because you can't be the champion tradeskiller and self all your hard to self stuff - made hard because you're a tradeskiller?

See that cake? Its mine now.

Engi's are about choice. You made yours. Really don't see why your pets should be made easier to compensate. They're complete superior to the alternatives. The rest are starting to catch up, and all you can say is 'me, me, me, ME!'

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I don't know how many wrong statements are in this, I stopped counting.

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Engi's are about choice

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No, we are forced to chose because, unlike just about ever other profession, we don't have a viable "one to rule them all" weapon, we have good PvM ones, we have a AI/froob old as hell PvP ones, we have carebear grenade ones. I'd much rather have a superior weapon that can take care of pvp AND pvm like just about every other prof, rather than having these oh so awesome choices. If my gun choices wasn't so reliable on AS, I could use that nano controller instead of sniper's friend (although that would put me at a whopping 3 hud/util just for nanoskills + the nanodeck, leaves me 2 spots to put in whatever I want, pretty sad).

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you're in a tissy because you can't be the champion tradeskiller

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If I was only TSing there would be no problem because I would just be wearing a set of arith, I switched to PvP without doing full IPR and found out I could have all the viable skills while still keeping most of my tradeskills. If I was in a tissy about anything it would be the sacrifices made just to be able to PvP with any kind of effectiveness.

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Really don't see why your pets should be made easier to compensate.

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Then stop caring and posting in this thread, you'll never get it, and it doesn't effect you so why are you here?

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They're complete superior to the alternatives.

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'fraid not Sally, just look at the dmg and HP the other pets have now... I'll let you get back to me.

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Originally Posted by Ferg

<random whines>

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its quite simple. stop dragging MPs into non-MP complaints, and you have a 99.999% chance i wont post, or even read the thread.

whats that? you cant? then your argument is invalidated if it cant stand on its own without comparison against another profession.

hell.. i'd be more inclined to support another prof's idea/wish if they're able to articulate it enough in a way that doesnt compare their prof to other profs. and especially if its not some "they got this, so we demand X".

this isnt Notum Science here..... :(

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

its quite simple. stop dragging MPs into non-MP complaints, and you have a 99.999% chance i wont post, or even read the thread.

whats that? you cant? then your argument is invalidated if it cant stand on its own without comparison against another profession.

hell.. i'd be more inclined to support another prof's idea/wish if they're able to articulate it enough in a way that doesnt compare their prof to other profs. and especially if its not some "they got this, so we demand X".

this isnt Notum Science here..... :(

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But it's 100% AOK for MPs to do it the other way around.

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Originally Posted by Technogen

But it's 100% AOK for MPs to do it the other way around.

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well, if you say so. then it must be true. :confused:

cause i'm not aware of me doing such tactics in the past couple years. or are you talking about people i have no control over?

if they're talking about getting things for MPs.. then why would i care? well.. course.. i care as much as needed to consider putting the suggestion in our Wish/Bug lists.

if they complain about MPs in a way thats wrong, then i may point out their errors as well.

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Originally Posted by IHaveHugeNick

Too bad Tigress caps at 12 seconds. You were saying?

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Really. I guess I sploit then.

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Originally Posted by shadowgod

its quite simple. stop dragging MPs into non-MP complaints, and you have a 99.999% chance i wont post, or even read the thread.

whats that? you cant? then your argument is invalidated if it cant stand on its own without comparison against another profession.

hell.. i'd be more inclined to support another prof's idea/wish if they're able to articulate it enough in a way that doesnt compare their prof to other profs. and especially if its not some "they got this, so we demand X".

this isnt Notum Science here..... :(

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This from the same class that used engineers' permanent pet duration as a large basis of their demand for longer pets... and the same profession who used such comparisons to justify flaming our requests for more manageable casting requirements (which coincidentally had nothing to do with MPs)... I don't care if you never made said comparisons yourself, it doesn't change the fact that a large number of the players you represent, and players that represent MPs in general, did. Just because you are a professional doesn't make you any less guilty of being a hypocrite.

As I said before, either realize that you aren't the only person\class that plays this game or keep your opinions to yourself.

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Originally Posted by Ferg

This from the same class that used engineers' permanent pet duration as a large basis of their demand for longer pets... and the same profession who used such comparisons to justify flaming our requests for more manageable casting requirements (which coincidentally had nothing to do with MPs)... I don't care if you never made said comparisons yourself, it doesn't change the fact that a large number of the players you represent, and players that represent MPs in general, did. Just because you are a professional doesn't make you any less guilty of being a hypocrite.

As I said before, either realize that you aren't the only person\class that plays this game or keep your opinions to yourself.

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i like that. so you're rationalizing your continuing to make unsubstantiated complaints by putting me in the same lot of people who continue to do what you have been doing.

yes yes.. we are the borg of MPs. resistance is futile. you will be assimilated by our mochams. resistance will make you gimped.

oh.. and before i forget... i'm not allowed to keep my opinions to myself. its a requirement of being a prof.