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I wonder why you didn't fill out that clan application sooner, Viray. How unhappy you must have been, being the clanner in neutral's clothing for so long. No wonder you still dont get it; even having seen the war crimes clan comitted you still live in a fog.
The Clans didn't commit war crimes, Black Dawn Syndicate, Lion's Den, and those Orgs. that attacked you actively started a war against EO when they attacked EO's towers. The Clans didn't do anything, but people affiliated with the Clans did. Until you learn the difference you are simply picking on a bigger enemy than you can ever hope to stand up too.
As for selecting the Clans as my choice in the Omni-Tek/Clan conflict... well I know there are more people amongst the Clans that would rather see freedom and remove opression than the handful of bad apples that started the whole EO Conflict... So yes, I made my choice... however I don't forget where I came from. In case you didn't notice I still display the Graduate of Elite Academy on my signature and I will continue to do so, however I do not have any materials or remains from Elite Operations... and I do not wish too.
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If you advocate letting people step all over you and turn other other cheek, then it is certainly good that you left EO.
I had no cheeks left to turn when I left EO, I was already bloody. I learned of backstabbing, double talk, and immaturity that ran so high it was unbelievable. Try as I might to leave bigones and not say anything of it, you insult me and leave me no other options for defense... So your implication that it is good I left EO cause I was weak is really laughable... I left cause EO was not any place I would wish on someone.
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But I digress... It would be nice if more guild representatives would answer Sumo's question in his original letter. I was also wondering myself which guilds take a neutral-friendly stance.
I aggree I would like to see more Clan and Omni-Tek responses... however I think the "suggestions" leave some chuckles to most people so they ignore this post altogether...
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Sorry Tiny, I love your radio show, but I can't disagree with you more on this point. I think I can safely say that once Clan succeeds as a faction to rid Tir of the neutral murdering Sentinels, then we can talk about the NLC mercs.
I am Clan, yet I support the Mercenaries within Newland City, why? Simple, there is no greater motivation for me to remove the Sentinels than it also meaning a free Newland City for all.
Eye for an eye is an acceptable position for anyone to take in my opinion, and the Neutrals have done nothing more than that. So when the Sentinels are gone I look forward to the removal of the Mercs as well. Maybe its good that we can aggree on that much.
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Read Sumo's letter again. He only wants to know which Omni and clan guilds have a neutral-friendly policy, not "who is friendly with EO and who is not". That's a different thread.
I think you need to read Sumo's letter again....
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Greetings,
Speaking as a neutral all this talk about clan fighting for "freedom"
and omni work "ethic" leaves me perplex. I invite both sides who really cares about neutrals to state what as a org or side is to do to be more neutral friendly. Neutral haters stay off this thread and if you must, please make a separate thread on why you should be not neutral friendly if you want to vent. Some suggestions would be.
1. Invite neutrals to uber loot raids.
2. Use diplomatic means to get back mines originally held by neutrals.
3. Help defend neutral territories.
4. Use political pressure on rogue guilds who are not neutral friendly.
I just want to know who are the true friends of neutrals are, please do not speak as individuals. Only responses from org reps has any bearing or merit.
Sincerely, Sumokan of Elite Operations
There read that and make sure ya hit the BOLD print... those are suggestions not thought... suggestions on a Neutral Friendly Policy/Stance. You could almost term them choices or requirements... as no one else among Neutral people has ever made such "suggestions".
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Funny, seems pretty clear to me that Sumo just wanted an answer to a basic question. His suggesting ways an org might choose to show neut-friendliness is not an open invitation for trailing lines of garbage and flames.
I posted the positon taken by Whisper's Edge, as publicly stated on our Grid Site... that was in the very first post I made... it was done to inform of Whisper's Edge policy on Neutrals. I also express what many Neutrals conveyed to me time and again about Neutrals not being a faction, and answered to the power post that was a vein attempt to put pressure on those that you have no right to pressure.
I am also not a Neutral Hater, so I was free to post by Sumokan's own request... cause I did fill the two requirements.
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Vix, maybe you misunderstand a bit. He was offering up general suggestions off the top of his that could be applied by various guilds to *any* neutral guild to show goodwill. They weren't demands at all.
How else can you take such suggestions? I mean this is a list of items for showing a Neutral Friendly stance, suggestion that EO must consider fair to Neutrals as a whole.
These are impossible suggestions and really have no merit, and they were thought out suggestions... not thoughts off the top of Sumokan's head, I don't think Sumokan would operate in such a manner.
Neutrals are not a faction, they are a group of people that can't make their minds up on a side to fight for... they are the side lines... the best you can hope for in a Neutral friendly Org. is a "Don't get in the way and you won't get hurt." Policy... you are not a side to make any such suggestions, you are not a group of people to make suggestions. You are Neutrals... you want benefits of a functional Faction and network of people on the same side as you... then pick a side!