"Emergency breed perks"

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Dec 1st, 2009, 09:30:58
MyGift

"Emergency breed perks"

Ok i just wanted to point out on that "emergency" button how Kintaii called Mongo Rage vs emergency buttons of other breeds. These are alpha genomes.

Atrox : Mongo rage = Offense modifier: 1500

Nanomage : Synthesize = Nano Damage Modifier: 50 Heal Modifier: 50 Nano cost modifier: -50

Opifex : Brimstone = Damage: -666 .. -666, 5 hits, 2s delay Add All Defense: -150

Solitus : Sphere = Critical Increase: 25 Add all off: 125 Add all def: 125

Now plz compare that MR with any other...Is that what u call balance? Im not making this post cause i want more love for any other breed...in fact my 2 main toons are atrox (agent and keeper) which are very MR depended due to their setups but cmon!! How can solitus get 125 aad/aao or opi with 666 dmg dot, -150 aad while atrox gets 1500ar ? look at those numbers that cant be right...
Dec 1st, 2009, 10:12:17
Fatalfox

Agreed, wouldnt mind MR being toned down a bit.
Dec 1st, 2009, 10:46:53
Synre

nerfing MR (even more) will just lose AO players.

I'd say improve the other breedperks if you want to truly balance it.

But overall I'd say its okay now. the propopsed NM breedperks look pretty good, and the solitus ones are decent, could use a boost (maybe need small boost like more heal). Opi need some work.

Only strange thing is that trox are getting selfheals that are almost as good as solitus heals now that strikes me a bit odd, but we'll have to see how the definite perklines look.
Dec 1st, 2009, 14:49:14
Tergx

nerfing = bad, let's see the proposed changes in action, then there will be some adjustments probably after its on test.
Dec 1st, 2009, 19:59:26
MyGift

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Originally Posted by Tergxj

nerfing = bad, let's see the proposed changes in action, then there will be some adjustments probably after its on test.

It dosnt have to be nerfed, other breed perks can be improved and in the end it will bring us to same balance...
Dec 1st, 2009, 21:49:48
ragerayden

Nanomage breed perks are fun, useless for most but fun.
Dec 1st, 2009, 22:53:04
Righteous

It's not a nerf if you turn something down that was overpowered to begin with.
Dec 2nd, 2009, 07:44:20
Wakizaka

I'd like to see Opifex Secondary getting more AAD/Blockers, but then we'll just turn into gimps who can't hit each-other and the occasional hit gets blocked :p
Dec 2nd, 2009, 08:07:38
EmSeeBee

MR should be 750-1k AAD tops...that's still plenty.

end of story.
Dec 2nd, 2009, 08:53:42
MyGift

Quote:

Originally Posted by emseebee

mr should be 750-1k aad tops...that's still plenty.

End of story.

aad?
Dec 2nd, 2009, 11:01:18
NoGoal

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyGift

Ok i just wanted to point out on that "emergency" button how Kintaii called Mongo Rage vs emergency buttons of other breeds. These are alpha genomes.(..)

Now plz compare that MR with any other...Is that what u call balance?

Well compare other emergency buttons, not perks that are on the same place.

Solitus get iTacky Hack.
Opifex get blockers.
Nanomage get Damage-To-Nano.

MR aside, atrox get nothing impressive, all others breed do. Hell even MR itself isn't any good, you also need damage perks after it. How many profs do use it? 3 or 4? Ask MR to be in an AI Group Perk line but don't say it's OP versus other AI genomes lines. I, for sure, am changing from atrox to other breeds if current changes hit live.
Dec 3rd, 2009, 00:17:19
Fifty50

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyGift

in fact my 2 main toons are atrox (agent and keeper) which are very MR depended due to their setups but cmon!!

I think you got it backwards there, the setup's are defensive due to MR. Same as NT setups can focus defensively due to Constant Barrage.
Dec 3rd, 2009, 09:32:25
MyGift

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifty50

I think you got it backwards there, the setup's are defensive due to MR. Same as NT setups can focus defensively due to Constant Barrage.

Dont u think (for example trox agent) its lame that i can go full def with all items on aad/evades/hp and perk more ppl then opifex in full aao gear where he get squishy as hell cause of it?
People have defensive and offensive setips. In def one u are harder to kill and its harder to kill, in offense setup u get killed easily but u also kill fast and easy. As trox there is no sucha thing, u get advantages of both sides cause of MR. U can go full def setup and still be able to kill ppl pretty easy due to MR.
Dec 3rd, 2009, 13:12:10
NoGoal

On the other side you have toons that go full AR and can't perk a bunch of profs. Let's not nerf everything.
Dec 3rd, 2009, 19:06:04
Fifty50

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyGift

Dont u think (for example trox agent) its lame that i can go full def with all items on aad/evades/hp and perk more ppl then opifex in full aao gear where he get squishy as hell cause of it?
People have defensive and offensive setips. In def one u are harder to kill and its harder to kill, in offense setup u get killed easily but u also kill fast and easy. As trox there is no sucha thing, u get advantages of both sides cause of MR. U can go full def setup and still be able to kill ppl pretty easy due to MR.

Reverse logic, but its what you ment, nvm. But, I do think it is totally unfair and promotes rolling trox for all profs with a decent number of damage perks. Also pointing out its the same case for NTs, because of Constant Barrage, except they can spam their "MR" while benefiting all allies around. With new proposed changes to perks checking NR, it will get even better.